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Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:26

One may create a column and code it in order to designate which is BAHA tree fruit or farm tree fruit.

You may sort this way if you wish.

Within BAHA tree fruit you may wish to designate which is used in the mill and which is not. The same can be done for farm tree fruit.
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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:29

Btw craft items have EV values too, just not visible in the game Yup

I do not know if I go the wrong direction here, as I make it all basicly go for the same rate.
Donation of whatever item/animal is tied to all the others from the same type.

Simply put
if an apple has a rate of 1 the EV is 60 and the CC I pay for it is 60 too
then I will not pay a higer rate for another fruit.
So for example a peach has an EV of 130, so if it costs 140, that will be more I will not buy it

That is more what I think I am looking for.
I understand that the market is different for all kinds of reasons, events and all that.
But that indeed only works if you invest the time to learn your market. And each market is different to one another too.

That is why I thought it could be helpful to have some fixed rates in a chart to help out.
But I am me and you are you and all the others can think differently as what can and is useful scratch head

I can make it all sortable too, add baha or mainland, levels etc. But the table sorter only works on a different page, like the calculators we have. The sorting does not work in posts here.

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Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:30

You should find today a high rate for Golden leaf for instance.  The high rate is due to the announcement of the quest.  It is used in the mill and the quest will drain barns and the price will reflect it as well as the individual rate.  Many are gathering now to invest and also for their mills and also for the quest.
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Re: Market exchange

Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:33

Sleepy wrote:Btw craft items have EV values too, just not visible in the game Yup

Are you certain craft items have an EV or do they have a suggested market value?  I've asked for clarification and they are not the same.

The suggested market values are in the faqs.
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Re: Market exchange

Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:35

If you glance in your barn you will find that several base craft items have an EV.  They cannot be sold.
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Re: Market exchange

Post by -Mir85- on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:37

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Post by Guest on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:44

In the FAQ on the official forum the EV values are in the chart not the suggested market value as the suggested market value fluctuates and the EV does not.
But the craft charts I made where before the market became dynamic, I guess the confusion comes from there.

In the Dutch forum for example they name it market value, on the finished craft items. But it does not hold any 'market value' that is presented in the actual market.

Did it ever happen that one could donate craft items?

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Post by -Mir85- on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:53

With suggested market value fb means the price the market index (price you see when you want to sell an item) doesn't go below. Market index of pinkie pie pie doesn't go below 29,005 for instance even though it sells for less than that most of the time.


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Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 20:59

The suggested market value does not fluctuate in the game faqs for the craft items.  Either I am wrong or we have a communication issue involving terms.  If there is an EV before the market became dynamic I would not know.  

There has never been an event to my knowledge that called for craft items.  

In the current game faqs there is no EV I can find, only the suggest value.

And the Alchemist craft products have neither an EV or suggest value in the faqs.

If ever an event asked for craft products today they would have to be submitted in one of three ways:
(1) the item itself or
(2) EV of the base items which cannot be sold and would have to be made and submitted or
(3) suggested value which seems unlikely

I would guess #2 as BP developers would know in advance what would be affected most.
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Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 21:02

@-Mir85- wrote:I have a challenge for you fb  broke
I thought you might like this discussion.  

What's the challenge?  uh ohhhhhhhhhhh
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Re: Market exchange

Post by -Mir85- on Mon Jan 16 2017, 21:06

Explain to me something I do not already know about EV analysis.  farmer


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Re: Market exchange

Post by Guest on Mon Jan 16 2017, 21:14

Lets see if I can get this right...

Market value and suggested value are terms better not used as they do not exsist for FA.

There is an Exchange Value - if a quest or event asks for donation
There is a market price - for selling on the market.

The market price is what we sell and buy for and fluctuates.
The suggested price by the system has an initial starting point at the exchange value.
Suggested values = suggested price in the market, not a fixed thing noted in FAQ's

The current FAQ's on the official forum list the EV for the craft items.

In the case of the PPP there must be a glitch somewhere, maybe because there is a Pet for it. Are there more items with this problem?

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Re: Market exchange

Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 21:15

@-Mir85- wrote:With suggested market value fb means the price the market index (price you see when you want to sell an item) doesn't go below. Market index of pinkie pie pie doesn't go below 29,005 for instance even though it sells for less than that most of the time.
I was after that with the question you were kind enough to cite.  And I don't think I can agree as we are now bringing market index into the discussion

Lettuce has an EV of 1.
The market index will never drop below 1.
Then is 1 the suggested value?

Suggested value is not the same as EV according to the answer received.  

And this is regardless of whether the market index is set at the EV or the suggested value (SV).

I do have an answer.
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Re: Market exchange

Post by farmer_broke on Mon Jan 16 2017, 21:19

@-Mir85- wrote:Explain to me something I do not already know about EV analysis.  farmer
I do not know what you know.  Nor do you know what I know.

I do hope you know more than I do and I may learn something from you.  We must reach that point if you dare to. 

Which craft items have the greatest upward price potential of all?  #1 and #2 and why?
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